SIRI & XMSR Like a tsunami from hell!

drsuck said: "Ah yes... just when you thought Satellite Radio underdog was going to take over XMSR because of their recent "problems" they post some 'beautiful' earnings :D more like loses! Does this mean an killer tsunami is going to strike the Satellite Radio empires? All I know is if you are trading these company's you are probably feeling like you are on a surf board riding a tsunami from hell... enjoy it because you will probably end up broke on shore! Dr. Stock"

Grifter said: "You're pessimistic, maybe that tsunami will jus turn around and go away and the sun will come out :D If they can just cut back a little on their spending I think their problems will go away."

JAP said: "It's buying opportunity."

InvestorInMN said: "XMSR looks like it going to keep going down it lost almost 2 and a half points"

Grifter said: "I think this company generates an amazing amount of revenues and growing at a fast rate, 120% sales revenue growth difference between 2005 and 2004 but their expenses are way too high. I think that if their revenues continue to increase, it will eventually surpass the amount they spend, and the profits will go rolling in. I think its a long term buy"

Grifter said: "Alright, maybe you guys have more experience with whether to trust analyst information, the targets for XMSR by analysts are all in the 35s range, and the scottrade investment section has a pie chart where analyst opinions are grouped into a chart, most of it is a strong buy, whats up with that?! The way things are going it doesnt seem like a buy at all, are analysts that far off the mark?"

wildmandan32 said: "I dont really spend much time looking at XMSR (but my opinion isn't positive) but regarding SIRI the only thing I would count on is it losing $"

wildmandan32 said: "this is a great example of loving a companies service and hating their stock...at least for me."

Harry said: "This is an interesting time. Long term these stocks will go up, but is satellite radio overall the best place for your money now????? There are more productive investments that don't involve waiting. But 10% of your portfolio on satellite radio seems reasonable. One thing I worried about for the future is yet more competition. XM is doing well though getting contracted to be in new cars. SIRIUS seems ahead on the headliners like Howard Stern. Terrestrial radio is still a potential spoiler with a certain change over to digital at some point. Pay radio does stick in my craw. It seems like everything we enjoyed for free at one time becomes bigger and involves fees. But it could work. People are paying big money for satellite and cable TV today while very superb and FREE over-the-air high definition television signals are now available and goes mostly un-noticed. I love FREE OTA high def TV. It isn't as compressed as the downrezzed product that cable and sat offers...my point being satellite radio probably can profit against the enviornment."

fireopal said: "anyone wanna wager a bet that siri will be the one standing stronger down the road??? bets taking bets... should add that i am relying totally on "gut feeling" and the only other time my gut has spoken to me like this was when most everyone didn't think/believe goog was gonna fly and shame on for me for listening to those who knew more about the market b/c i lost a bunch of money by not listening to that gut call...."

wildmandan32 said: "I must say I really didn't like what transpired today, regarding XMSR I thought this one was going to begin to flush :mad: i really can't imagine people buying at this point, my fear is that with the amount of volume we saw this could become a real tug of war...time will tell, myself I want to see it TANK."

fireopal said: "SIRIUS Satellite Radio to Launch Exclusive `Court TV Morning Radio` February 21, 2006 10:00:32 (ET) NEW YORK, Feb 21, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- SIRIUS Satellite Radio (SIRI, Trade) and Court TV News(SM) today announced the launch of Court TV Morning Radio(SM), a weekday call-in radio news program hosted by Court TV News' Vinnie Politan, who will continue to co-anchor the network's daily trial coverage program, Bloom & Politan. The new show, which will run weekdays from 6 am to 9 am, is expected to debut on March 20 on Court TV Radio, SIRIUS Channel 110. [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_02_21_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_3AEDB5B9-35F1-4293-9DB1-793B9CBA6A93&provider=PRNewswire[/url]"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]SIRIUS Satellite Radio to Launch Exclusive `Court TV Morning Radio` February 21, 2006 10:00:32 (ET) NEW YORK, Feb 21, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- SIRIUS Satellite Radio (SIRI, Trade) and Court TV News(SM) today announced the launch of Court TV Morning Radio(SM), a weekday call-in radio news program hosted by Court TV News' Vinnie Politan, who will continue to co-anchor the network's daily trial coverage program, Bloom & Politan. The new show, which will run weekdays from 6 am to 9 am, is expected to debut on March 20 on Court TV Radio, SIRIUS Channel 110. [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_02_21_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_3AEDB5B9-35F1-4293-9DB1-793B9CBA6A93&provider=PRNewswire[/url][/QUOTE] LOL Well I guess you are a shareholder of SIRI and hope this gives you some PR rush! But unfortunately SIRI is not going to make it past $7.00 a share... sorry. You can quote me on it and I will even bow down to you if it does go over $7.00 a share in 1 and a half years... Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]LOL Well I guess you are a shareholder of SIRI and hope this gives you some PR rush! But unfortunately SIRI is not going to make it past $7.00 a share... sorry. You can quote me on it and I will even bow down to you if it does go over $7.00 a share in 1 and a half years... Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] you don't think it will make it past $7 by mid 08? if so, you gotta bet!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]you don't think it will make it past $7 by mid 08? if so, you gotta bet!![/QUOTE] You got yourself a deal. If it goes above $7.00 by Mid 2008 I will call you god LOL but not until then! What do I get out of this deal? A new 2009 BMW would be nice... not that I wouldnt be able to buy one anyway :D Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]You got yourself a deal. If it goes above $7.00 by Mid 2008 I will call you god LOL but not until then! What do I get out of this deal? A new 2009 BMW would be nice... not that I wouldnt be able to buy one anyway :D Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] no - you will call me "goddess" and i will call you god if it doesn't... and since you can buy yourself a new bmw then you can buy me one too!!!"

trickynick said: "I can't help but think the whole satellite radio concept is doomed. At this point in time SIRI has been around long enough that they should at least have had one year of postive gross margins. I am not evern talking about positive [b]NET INCOME[/b], guys, I am talking about positive [b]GROSS[/b] eff-ing [b]MARGINS[/b]! They haven't done it. If this is going anywhere there will be plenty of time to get in, but I take a dim view of that possibility. The way I see it, the whole business is very dubious. People have to see a lot of value in a service in order to pay a monthly fee and satellite radio just has too many competing substitutes that don't require a monthly fee. People who like the commercial-free music idea are buying I-PODS! People who like to listen to sports broadcasts can listen to them on the radio for free and don't really care about commercials because they don't interrupt anything in that case. Okay, so Howard Stern is on SIRI and nowhere else but when you look at the financial statements it is very clear they really need much more than that going for them to turn this into a profitable business. Satellite radio is a long road to nowhere, I am convinced of it."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]no - you will call me "goddess" and i will call you god if it doesn't... and since you can buy yourself a new bmw then you can buy me one too!!![/QUOTE] Sounds like a reasonable deal and every quarter (3 months) I will post SIRI's current stock price on this forum thread. Good luck to you and if I get some money from the other stocks i'm playing and not my business then I will buy you a BMW, I promise :D *NO ONE ELSE ASK ME FOR A CAR* Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=trickynick]I can't help but think the whole satellite radio concept is doomed. At this point in time SIRI has been around long enough that they should at least have had one year of postive gross margins. I am not evern talking about positive [b]NET INCOME[/b], guys, I am talking about positive [b]GROSS[/b] eff-ing [b]MARGINS[/b]! They haven't done it. If this is going anywhere there will be plenty of time to get in, but I take a dim view of that possibility. The way I see it, the whole business is very dubious. People have to see a lot of value in a service in order to pay a monthly fee and satellite radio just has too many competing substitutes that don't require a monthly fee. People who like the commercial-free music idea are buying I-PODS! People who like to listen to sports broadcasts can listen to them on the radio for free and don't really care about commercials because they don't interrupt anything in that case. Okay, so Howard Stern is on SIRI and nowhere else but when you look at the financial statements it is very clear they really need much more than that going for them to turn this into a profitable business. Satellite radio is a long road to nowhere, I am convinced of it.[/QUOTE] i think there is a huge place for radio... after all - we began with it 100 years ago (or around this time)... also think there are many more spending more hours in cars these days and commercial free radio is very much valued... not to mention - more selections to listen to. and as seems to be the case with any new pioneering venture introduced to the mainstream, it takes time to change/open minds to something new, and therefore, for business aspects to work out and for a profit to be seen."

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Sounds like a reasonable deal and every quarter (3 months) I will post SIRI's current stock price on this forum thread. Good luck to you and if I get some money from the other stocks i'm playing and not my business then I will buy you a BMW, I promise :D *NO ONE ELSE ASK ME FOR A CAR* Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] giggling - that was real easy... so now all i have to do is keep the faith strong for not only siri but for your stocks to grow as well?? ok, done... am looking forward to my new bmw!!!!!!!"

drdan said: "The one group of people that you are missing that would gladly pay for radio and have the same channel from coast to coast are truck drivers. Many of them love their satellite radios. I have satellite radio (XMSR) and I love it! It is like when you get something and you say to yourself how did I live without this before? I still listen to my local talk stations but I travel a lot for my real job and then I have XM wherever I want. So there is a market for it, but I will say that it seems that it is awfully slow going. How long can they run in the red and last? I hope awhile."

HappyHarry said: "My biggest problem with the satellite companies is how much money they spend."

fireopal said: "havta spend money to make money and the bigger the business the more money, so seeing red will take time but it is coming b/c this is the wave of the future.... and before she leave she clears her throat and says > SIRI will be monopolizing this arena!!"

trickynick said: "Here is another thing worth mentioning. I live in a mid-size American metropolitain area (just under 2 million people), I have a full time job, I go to school and I have a fairly active social life and to my knowledge I still have yet to meet a SINGLE person who subscribes to sattelite radio who didn't end up with it because their car came with one and there are not a lot of them I know either. If I am to believe we are on the verge of some sort of grand sattelite renaissance it seems like I really should have seen more of these around by now. Look at the financial statements and do the math as to what it's going to take in terms of how many people are going to need to buy into this and the outlook appears quite bleak."

fireopal said: "i remember when cd players began to phase out 8 tracks, just as when dvd phased out vhs and cable tv came along and has phased out regular tv programming, which took time to achieve... know i wasn't interested in any of em but 8 track and vhs are nowhere to be found and most everyone has cable tv etc... like it or not - time always races to the future and satellite radio is the future numbers or not, as i believe that even cable tv didn't have the numbers way back when either but am not completely sure...."

trickynick said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]like it or not - time always races to the future and satellite radio is the future numbers or not, as i believe that even cable tv didn't have the numbers way back when either but am not completely sure....[/QUOTE] There is a key difference with respect to cable TV. You either have air (bad reception, lucky to get what channels you do if any) or you have satellite TV or cable, both of which require a monthly fee. There is no way to get what these things provide for you without paying a monthly fee, in which case consumers see enough value that they feel justified in paying the monthly fee. This is not the case with satellite radio. If you want to listen to commercial free music you can buy an I-Pod, which requires the purchase of the I-Pod plus paying for whatever I-Tunes you will be listening to. Once you buy the tunes, you can listen to them whenever and not pay a monthly fee, until you decide you want to get more which you never HAVE to do. If sports or talk radio is what you are into there is something competing with satellite radio that costs nothing at all, the only catch is that you have to put up with commercials and there is ample evidence that this group of listeners is more tolerant of commercials than those who are listening to the radio mainly for music. Most people who are interested in news listen to public radio where there are few commercials altogether. If a monthly fee from the customer is going to be the main constituient of a company's revenue model it has to be in the context of a playing field where a monthly fee is accepted as par for the course if you want the service at all. Where what competes doesn't necessarily require that, I am very incredulous. With regard to the numbers not being there, I realize that that is often the case when a particular industry is not yet "mature", but there is a difference between simply bad numbers and abyssmally horrific numbers."

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=trickynick]There is a key difference with respect to cable TV. You either have air (bad reception, lucky to get what channels you do if any) or you have satellite TV or cable, both of which require a monthly fee. There is no way to get what these things provide for you without paying a monthly fee, in which case consumers see enough value that they feel justified in paying the monthly fee. This is not the case with satellite radio. If you want to listen to commercial free music you can buy an I-Pod, which requires the purchase of the I-Pod plus paying for whatever I-Tunes you will be listening to. Once you buy the tunes, you can listen to them whenever and not pay a monthly fee, until you decide you want to get more which you never HAVE to do. If sports or talk radio is what you are into there is something competing with satellite radio that costs nothing at all, the only catch is that you have to put up with commercials and there is ample evidence that this group of listeners is more tolerant of commercials than those who are listening to the radio mainly for music. Most people who are interested in news listen to public radio where there are few commercials altogether. If a monthly fee from the customer is going to be the main constituient of a company's revenue model it has to be in the context of a playing field where a monthly fee is accepted as par for the course if you want the service at all. Where what competes doesn't necessarily require that, I am very incredulous. With regard to the numbers not being there, I realize that that is often the case when a particular industry is not yet "mature", but there is a difference between simply bad numbers and abyssmally horrific numbers.[/QUOTE] i hear you but guess we are just gonna havta wait and see what does or does not happen down the road... my money is on satellite radio (both figuratively and literally) and not just for music, sports or news but for many other types of programming as well..."

trickynick said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]i hear you but guess we are just gonna havta wait and see what does or does not happen down the road... my money is on satellite radio (both figuratively and literally) and not just for music, sports or news but for many other types of programming as well...[/QUOTE] As you say, we will see. I think that if my reasoning does end up being shown to be wrong, there will still be plenty of time to get in on this later to enjoy a profit. Right now it is just too uncertain."

uo10 said: "I've only kinda checked in on this thread here and there, but I don't think this was mentioned.... I think the Ipod has been one of the big problems with satellite radio. To me, it seems like the Ipod would eliminate most customers that might otherwise subscribe for music. I realize you don't get all the talk shows and what not with the Ipod, but in my opinion a very large portion of the market (college students/high school students) aren't suscribing for the talk shows... Any thoughts?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]havta spend money to make money and the bigger the business the more money, so seeing red will take time but it is coming b/c this is the wave of the future.... and before she leave she clears her throat and says > SIRI will be monopolizing this arena!![/QUOTE] Ahh true but you cant fill a hole if you keep digging it :D Dr. Stock"

HappyHarry said: "[QUOTE=uo10]I've only kinda checked in on this thread here and there, but I don't think this was mentioned.... I think the Ipod has been one of the big problems with satellite radio. To me, it seems like the Ipod would eliminate most customers that might otherwise subscribe for music. I realize you don't get all the talk shows and what not with the Ipod, but in my opinion a very large portion of the market (college students/high school students) aren't suscribing for the talk shows... Any thoughts?[/QUOTE] No doubt in my mind you hit the nail on the head. No way do kids need radio anymore, even satellite."

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Ahh true but you cant fill a hole if you keep digging it :D Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] hey - xm is in that hole too and satellite radio is not going underground... just a question of which one is gonna fly is all....and we both know which one it's gonna be!!"

AlfredSokol said: "My buddy bought the Sirius when Howard Stern went to satellite. What a sheeple."

drsuck said: "Ah doesnt look good for Sirius. A sirius drop today :D anyway just read drudgereport.com and saw this posted big and proud. [url]http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060228/nytu192.html?.v=25[/url] Enjoy! Sorry to see that you wont be getting your new BMW from me ;) Dr. Stock"

bobjitsu said: "Howard's getting sued. I'm happy now. Here is another link. [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11608693/[/url]"

fireopal said: "let's wait and see what happens b/f anyone reneges on my bmw.... looks like a fairly frivolous suit, and me thinks the radio is pissed b/c they are losing money since he left.. wonder if there is gonna be a countersuit?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]let's wait and see what happens b/f anyone reneges on my bmw.... looks like a fairly frivolous suit, and me thinks the radio is pissed b/c they are losing money since he left.. wonder if there is gonna be a countersuit?[/QUOTE] Ah but SIRI hit below $5.00 a share now... ;) Doesnt look good Fireopal. I will keep you posted on any news :D DR. STOCK"

trickynick said: "[QUOTE=uo10]I've only kinda checked in on this thread here and there, but I don't think this was mentioned.... I think the Ipod has been one of the big problems with satellite radio.[/QUOTE] It was mentioned. Check out the exchange between fireopal and myself. BTW, I agree with you. That is a major reason why the commercial-free music fans are not more into satellite radio, their I-Pods don't charge them a monthly fee."

fireopal said: "not a problem b/c i have been waiting for it to dip below $5. to accumulate more... and much can happen in the next year and a half...."

trickynick said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]not a problem b/c i have been waiting for it to dip below $5. to accumulate more... and much can happen in the next year and a half....[/QUOTE] fireopal, I am not asking this to demean you, it is a serious question. Have you looked at the financial statements? If so, are you able to read and understand them and form conclusions about what they are up against if they are to become a financially sound concern? I have talked not just to you but to several investors optimistic on SIRI and satellite radio in general and I don't seem to get an answer to this question. How solid do you consider your understanding of what is actually going on in the company? Be honest. I think a lot of this enthusiasm people have for satellite radio comes from the fact that a lot of things that have gone on in consumer electronics over the last 30 years or so have had people wishing they "would have invested in....(whatever)...15 years ago" and they don't want to miss any more opportunities than they already have. So now, any kind of "new" thing in consumer electronics is fully expected to be the threshold of a grand revolution whether or not the fundamentals support such a conclusion. In my opinion this kind of thinking is serving to set a lot of investors up for a bitter rude awakening."

PapaDaca said: "This is a hot buy right now Infiniumlabs [url]http://www.infiniumlabs.com/[/url] .031 cents this stock will explode and go sky high. IFLB.OB get it while its low you have a chance to doube triple quadriple your money in days."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=trickynick]fireopal, I am not asking this to demean you, it is a serious question. Have you looked at the financial statements? If so, are you able to read and understand them and form conclusions about what they are up against if they are to become a financially sound concern? I have talked not just to you but to several investors optimistic on SIRI and satellite radio in general and I don't seem to get an answer to this question. How solid do you consider your understanding of what is actually going on in the company? Be honest. I think a lot of this enthusiasm people have for satellite radio comes from the fact that a lot of things that have gone on in consumer electronics over the last 30 years or so have had people wishing they "would have invested in....(whatever)...15 years ago" and they don't want to miss any more opportunities than they already have. So now, any kind of "new" thing in consumer electronics is fully expected to be the threshold of a grand revolution whether or not the fundamentals support such a conclusion. In my opinion this kind of thinking is serving to set a lot of investors up for a bitter rude awakening.[/QUOTE] I completely agree with you TrickyNick. If you read the financials and understand the charts you know that this is definitely not a good sign. Thus I made the bet with Fireopal that SIRI is in SERIOUS trouble! It is a good idea but the way their finances are it isnt going no where. Dr. Stock"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=PapaDaca]This is a hot buy right now Infiniumlabs [url]http://www.infiniumlabs.com/[/url] .031 cents this stock will explode and go sky high. IFLB.OB get it while its low you have a chance to doube triple quadriple your money in days.[/QUOTE] Wrong thread... Try the PENNYSTOCK forum here... it might get better reviews. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=trickynick] Be honest.[/QUOTE] hey you - i was honest earlier in this thread and said i am going on my gut feeling and nothing more... i may well lose out on this one, and all of you may be right but i lost out on google by not trusting my gut and listening to those that knew, and they obvioulsy didn't....so, i am ok whatever way it goes BUT it's gotta go up along with dr. stocks investments b/c i'ma getting a bmw..."

fireopal said: "oh and he along with all of you will have to refer to me as your goddess should my gut be right, and if not then i will refer to all of you as god for about a day!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]oh and he along with all of you will have to refer to me as your goddess should my gut be right, and if not then i will refer to all of you as god for about a day!![/QUOTE] For a day? Thats it come on. If my analysis is correct you gotta say it longer than that! Your BMW is looking better and better as my investments are doing well so far. I promise you you will get one if I do well... This is more like free money and college money for my child. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "ok, for 2 days and that's it!!"

trickynick said: "Fireopal, I missed your guy feeling and nothing more comment earlier, it occurred before I got into this thread. Sorry. Anyway, didn't mean to suggest you are a liar, just that you may be fooling yourself by overestimating your understanding of a very uncertain situation. [QUOTE=fireopal]i lost out on google by not trusting my gut[/QUOTE] Here is what gets you and many other investors into trouble, this feeling of having "lost" money by not buying something. If you feel you have lost money by not buying Google or any other stock, go check your bank account. The money is still there, you have lost nothing. However, investing in other things that you very arguably shouldn't be involved with as a way of making up for what you feel you have "lost" by not buying something else before is what usually results in REAL losses. Also, you have confirmed what I was saying before about what is motivating those who are so optimistic about satellite radio. They don't want to miss out on the "next best thing" like they have in so many situations before. So much for full disclosure's supposed impact on people's investment decisions. Why go on emotion or "gut feelings" as you put it when you so easily have so much access to information that very clearly says, "don't go there"? Looks like that's the way investors are always destined to behave."

fireopal said: "trickynick: didn't take anything personally in what you said so no worries with me in this respect... agree with most of your post, however, i do disagree w/your perspective in that i believe their is a big difference between gut feeling and emotion... am choosing to test my gut this time is all... although, i do have to state for the record and just in case i will be having to refer to all of you as "god" that my gut feeling wasn't as strong as it was w/goog but it was there nontheless... and hey, when you get right down to it we shouldn't "play" with what we cannot afford to lose, and why do you think i am buying on the dips?? >>>>>> to cover my butt just in case!!!"

stockdaily said: "I would not buy either one."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=stockdaily]I would not buy either one.[/QUOTE] Good man! Lucky for Fireopal I dont have any of my money not even a penny in XMSR nor SIRI but other stocks... that BMW is looking better today Fireopal. I will post my earnings thus far tomorrow. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT MY COMPANY EARNINGS, JUST STOCKS! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "i know - i know dr stock and much can change for both of us in a year and a half... so just in case my gut is right on, ya best be tucking some of that money you are making now away for my bmw!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]i know - i know dr stock and much can change for both of us in a year and a half... so just in case my gut is right on, ya best be tucking some of that money you are making now away for my bmw!![/QUOTE] Haha, I could buy you a BMW now if I wanted to but Id rather make the money buying stocks in the next couple of months. I would buy SIRI but I dont want to lose money... although Jim Cramer said SIRI will bounce back so I am betting against you and Cramer... but atleast I am not betting against his wife who is the real genius I am fine! Ever read his first book? Dr. Stock"

trickynick said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]agree with most of your post, however, i do disagree w/your perspective in that i believe their is a big difference between gut feeling and emotion...[/QUOTE] I could comment on that but it would lead to a highly abstract philiosophical discussion which might be very interesting but it would be off topic. [QUOTE=fireopal] although, i do have to state for the record and just in case i will be having to refer to all of you as "god" that my gut feeling wasn't as strong as it was w/goog but it was there nontheless...[/QUOTE] Don't worry about ever having to call me "god". My ego is not the least bit involved in what happens with SIRI or any other stock (another important peice of advice IMO). In fact since I have no position in it I hope for your sake I am wrong."

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=trickynick]I could comment on that but it would lead to a highly abstract philiosophical discussion which might be very interesting but it would be off topic.[/QUOTE] tricky: you are very right on both counts!"

fireopal said: "[B]CBS Chief A Secret Sirius Subscriber?[/B] "Page Six" of the New York Post reports that CBS CEO Les Moonves is a subscriber to Sirius Satellite. This fact, if true, is ironic because Moonves has filed a suit against Howard Stern for -- among other things -- using the CBS Radio airwaves to promote his Sirius Satellite Radio show. The Post adds that media attention from the lawsuit has, ironically, triggered a spike in Sirius subscriptions."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal][B]CBS Chief A Secret Sirius Subscriber?[/B] "Page Six" of the New York Post reports that CBS CEO Les Moonves is a subscriber to Sirius Satellite. This fact, if true, is ironic because Moonves has filed a suit against Howard Stern for -- among other things -- using the CBS Radio airwaves to promote his Sirius Satellite Radio show. The Post adds that media attention from the lawsuit has, ironically, triggered a spike in Sirius subscriptions.[/QUOTE] Well thats very nice... well thanks to our arguement Fireopal I did get carried away and thought if I lost the bet than Sirius did well... soo Id rather win and lose so I bought 2,000 shares of SIRI at a $4.98 :D Dr. Stock"

Heather said: "We had Sirius radio in a rental car.. I sort of liked it after giving it a try.. Nothing quite like a channel dedicated to Elvis..24X7!"

fireopal said: "Ha -- Gocha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

fireopal said: "and hey stock - isn't buying what you were betting against like a 'turn coat' move???"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]and hey stock - isn't buying what you were betting against like a 'turn coat' move???[/QUOTE] Yeah but I couldnt resist it under $5.00 a share. Dr. Stock"

drsuck said: "SIRI is still in limbo today between 4.99 and 5.02, doesnt look good unless Howard Stern pulls out and they get more customers! Thank god RIMM is doing well lol saving me from this almost bad stock pick. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "think they may head down even more b/f coming back up.. think i remember chart with lower support around $4.75 or something like that...."

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Thank god RIMM is doing well lol saving me from this almost bad stock pick. Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] don't wanna hear any complaints about this stock ya turn coat!!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]don't wanna hear any complaints about this stock ya turn coat!!![/QUOTE] LOL I didnt even buy more than 500 shares of SIRI, just a little cause maybe I am wrong and you are right... lol but I am not liking the trend! I should just take my gains and cut my losses. Dr. Stock"

wildmandan32 said: ":rolleyes: I for one can not believe the volume that SIRI has behind it, I have mentioned b4 that I've made great profits in the past off this stock and I love the service but hate the company and I made a rule to myself that I am done trading it and I'm sticking to it, I wish I would have shorted this ugly whore when I started feeling this way...but my doing things assbackwards I have puts on XMSR now I just wish I would have held onto the calls I had on RIMM at least I had a few shares of stock on spec...but would have could have should have"

drsuck said: "Good news for you Fireopal... Just talked to one of my stock buddys and he is rarely wrong... bad news for me though this is what he said. "Regarding Sirius Satellite Radio, Inc., your timing was impeccable. S&P just came out with a full report today, which I have attached. They have a 12 month target of 8." Looks good for you Fireopal that is if they keep up! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "singing >>>>dr stock isa buying me a bmw >>>> dr stock isa buying me a bmw >>>> i'ma getting a bmw -- i'ma getting a bmw >>>> i'ma getting a bmw..... yippeee!!!!!!!!"

fireopal said: "lower close today = c'mon $4.75... wildmandan - ya might wanna buy some more of MY stock and stop talking bad about it b/c it will make ya some money b/c she is GOOD whore... lol"

drsuck said: "IF ANYONE WANTS THE STANDARDS AND POORS FOCUS OF THE WEEK FOR SIRI March 06 2006 let me know it is in PDF Format. Great read! Let me know and I will e-mail it you right away! Dr. Stock"

wildmandan32 said: "I'm learning discipline in my old age lol and I vowed I WILL NOT TRADE IT ANYMORE...i've said it many times there is money to be made playing the swings and it definitely has the volume behind it and I'm happy as can be you are making $clink$ on it, my money is just better put to work elsewhere...and I won't touch this one it's just a matter of time but there is money to be made in the meanwhile, I'm just a stubborn old dude sad thing for me is I love the service but this is a great point in that we need to look at a company and it's stock differently....they often are not fair representations of each other, that would be far too easy"

fireopal said: "i want it and thank you!!"

fireopal said: "understand completely old and rickety wildmandan but should you change your mind than my siri will still be here... also - just noticed your location, and the image of an old man with a mickey mouse voice is sooo funny!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]i want it and thank you!![/QUOTE] PM Your e-mail addy to me so you dont get spammed and I will msg it to you ASAP. Dr. Stock"

trickynick said: "[QUOTE=wildmandan32]I for one can not believe the volume that SIRI has behind it[/QUOTE] There are a lot of shares out there and there are only going to be more as time goes on since their chief sources of cash include racking up debt and diluting their equity. But since financial statements are apparently not worth looking at and "gut feelings" tell us so much more about a company, we need not be concerned with such minute details. :D"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=trickynick]There are a lot of shares out there and there are only going to be more as time goes on since their chief sources of cash include racking up debt and diluting their equity. But since financial statements are apparently not worth looking at and "gut feelings" tell us so much more about a company, we need not be concerned with such minute details. :D[/QUOTE] nice try tricky but ya seem to have missed some key aspects posted in this thread leading up to trusting in those "gut feelings" so lemme help ya out here b/c it really isn't rocket science... lol. 1. contrary to "in the box thinking", we out of the box thinkers know that satellite radio is the wave of the future. 2. there are only 2 companies. 3. both companies have the same amount of debt, so no need to waste time looking at the financials. 4. unlike xm's ceo, siri ceo is also an out of the box thinker. 5, stern has a history that reflects he makes money for people. 6. stern also has a 5 year contract that pays mega bucks. 7. so between the 2 companies with the same debt load, and based on my own experience as a pioneer for my line of work, my gut feeling is on that out of the box thinker, because i know his thinking more likely than not will pull the company through, and they will be monopolizing a very limited playing field. period. now if you wanna go over the financials then you probably have not invested with either company, yes?? SO - i'll catch you downstream b/c i'm not sitting in that box analyzing this one to death like all of those in the box thinkers did when goog first went public, and all were saying they wouldn't fly for this reason or that reason -- blah-blah...."

fireopal said: "lot of buying @ these lower levels... `Sex and the City` Author Candace Bushnell to Launch Weekly Talk Show on SIRIUS Satellite Radio [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_03_07_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_F4F369D0-806C-479C-B51D-693D80D29CA5&provider=PRNewswire[/url]"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]lot of buying @ these lower levels... `Sex and the City` Author Candace Bushnell to Launch Weekly Talk Show on SIRIUS Satellite Radio [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_03_07_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_F4F369D0-806C-479C-B51D-693D80D29CA5&provider=PRNewswire[/url][/QUOTE] I know I just bought 1500 shares of SIRI at $4.90. I hope it goes up! :D Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "whoa - real big spender >>>1500 shares and you are saying " i hope it goes up"...you aren't kidding me - those 1500 shares are like buying a piece of candy for you.. lol seriously now - curious to know what you think - how low do you think this will go?? am hearing stern speaking right now on the news... lawsuit is going no where - huge joke... cbs gave permission b/c they knew they could sue him later and their ratings were through the roof when he was promoting...."

bobjitsu said: "[QUOTE=fireopal] am hearing stern speaking right now on the news... lawsuit is going no where - huge joke... cbs gave permission b/c they knew they could sue him later and their ratings were through the roof when he was promoting....[/QUOTE] You must be young. Stern runs his mouth about everything even when he knows it's a flat out lie to twist perception. He's a complete jackass and I'm praying to God Siri goes belly up so he is out of a job."

HappyHarry said: "The only thing that makes SIRI even remotely interesting as an investment is the fact it's part of a duopoly. If they allowed more than just SIRIUS and XM to compete, these guys would be in big trouble."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]whoa - real big spender >>>1500 shares and you are saying " i hope it goes up"...you aren't kidding me - those 1500 shares are like buying a piece of candy for you.. lol seriously now - curious to know what you think - how low do you think this will go?? am hearing stern speaking right now on the news... lawsuit is going no where - huge joke... cbs gave permission b/c they knew they could sue him later and their ratings were through the roof when he was promoting....[/QUOTE] I am not buying SIRI because of Howard Stern, as someone said Howard Stern runs his mouth, even though a lot of people like him the people that like him wont pay for SIRI and probably dont know what it is. The lowest SIRI will go is $4.78. The highest it will go will probably be $5.50 this year and $6.75 - $7.25 next year. That is based upon someone I know who knows a lot about both these company's and what SIRI and XMSR are doing. It is going to be a roller coaster but it will steady out. Not going to make me a couple hundred thousand dollars nor a million but it will pay the taxes on my house LOL. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=bobjitsu]You must be young. Stern runs his mouth about everything even when he knows it's a flat out lie to twist perception. He's a complete jackass and I'm praying to God Siri goes belly up so he is out of a job.[/QUOTE] am not that young, but don't know that much about stern either.. younger brother introduced me to him/his 'black jeopardy" showa few years back, which was very funny....have since heard a few more of his shows and saw him interviewed and got that right or wrong there does seem to be a method/reason for his craziness, which right or wrong i do respect but don't necessarily wanna subscribe to... so why don't you like siri - is it stern or something else?? and praying to god that it goes belly up is down right mean!!! lol."

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=HappyHarry] If they allowed more than just SIRIUS and XM to compete, these guys would be in big trouble.[/QUOTE] yeah - but even if a new kid did come out to play then he too would probably have the same money problems unless s/he came to the board with mega money, so it would still be the same game, and investors would havta look at things other than financials, yes??"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]yeah - but even if a new kid did come out to play then he too would probably have the same money problems unless s/he came to the board with mega money, so it would still be the same game, and investors would havta look at things other than financials, yes??[/QUOTE] Well well well SIRI is trying to stick to life at $4.7x a share! Not good not good at all! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "not a problem - is doing what i got it was going to do...actually wouldn't mind seeing it go lower and picking up a few @ the 52 week low.... and hopefully, god will ignore someone's prayer and it WILL NOT be answered!!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]not a problem - is doing what i got it was going to do...actually wouldn't mind seeing it go lower and picking up a few @ the 52 week low.... and hopefully, god will ignore someone's prayer and it WILL NOT be answered!!![/QUOTE] I know thats why I bought so many shares of SIRI... just wish I bought them at the low today... but you might never buy a stock at its lowest and sell at its highest. Was a bit worried cause the stock flatlined a bit today but I know it will go up. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Was a bit worried cause the stock flatlined a bit today but I know it will go up. Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] think alot of em flat lined today... hope tomorrow is better for the market..."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]think alot of em flat lined today... hope tomorrow is better for the market...[/QUOTE] Yeah I am hoping too... A lot of crap today... and then Google agrees to pay $90 mln, chump change but it would make SIRI cry if they had to pay it... Hmm I wondering if Google will buy SIRI... that would be nice! Dr. Stock"

BenHouston said: "I just looked at SIRIs chart on stockcharts.com :( scary stuff, to me it looks like its going lower :eek:"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=BenHouston]I just looked at SIRIs chart on stockcharts.com :( scary stuff, to me it looks like its going lower :eek:[/QUOTE] It is going to! :( Better get the bomb shelter ready the satellites are about to fall ;) Dr. Stock"

BenHouston said: "[QUOTE=drstock]It is going to! :( Better get the bomb shelter ready the satellites are about to fall ;) Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] Good Call :p"

kilikili said: "I'm hearing the bells of OTCBB! :eek:"

fireopal said: "i'ma believer and will hang to the bitter end b/c the one thing i learned in my line of work is that pioneering anything is never easy!! things many times havta get worse b/f they get better and i'ma hoping the same rule applies here...."

drsuck said: "SIRI is bouncing back up today in early trading. Looks like a good outcome for today. Dr. Stock"

bobjitsu said: "[QUOTE=drstock]It is going to! :( Better get the bomb shelter ready the satellites are about to fall ;) Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] Stock in bomb shelters? Check!"

drsuck said: "Uh oh Fireopal... looks like SIRI is starting its rebound phase! Thank god I bought when I did! Woooooo hooooooo Keep them damn satellites up in outer space! Just kidding, I think they are low orbital satellites so they arent in outer space. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "am glad to see someone's prayer isn't working but still would like it to pick up some shares even lower... still may happen but they have news out today, which may be why it's going up... some good sales too...."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]am glad to see someone's prayer isn't working but still would like it to pick up some shares even lower... still may happen but they have news out today, which may be why it's going up... some good sales too....[/QUOTE] lol I see you got Big Money Woman now on your computer ;) Good job! Should be president. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "you were right and hathor came to help me... and no way in hell could anyone pay me enough $$ to want to be president!! besides - i would probably be killed.... lol"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]you were right and hathor came to help me... and no way in hell could anyone pay me enough $$ to want to be president!! besides - i would probably be killed.... lol[/QUOTE] Id last 5 seconds before Id get impeached :) or shot! I am just hoping someday people would take my ideas seriously LOL Dr. Stock"

kilikili said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Id last 5 seconds before Id get impeached :) or shot! I am just hoping someday people would take my ideas seriously LOL Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] What 'ideas' ? :)"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=kilikili]What 'ideas' ? :)[/QUOTE] Oh... you really dont wanna know... ;) :cool: Dr. Stock But if you do I'll tell ya."

fireopal said: "i'd like to hear this one too...."

drsuck said: "Okay okay... hopefully no one works for the FBI, CIA, Interpol or any other government agency. 1) No More Welfare - Welfare wont be an option anymore ESPECIALLY when you just come to this country. Many of America's first family's came here to work and that is how it should be, we have a national debt already we dont need someone elses. 2) There should atleast be one news station that reports semi good news, not all the news stations that report stupid bad shit all the time and they should support America and not the enemy!!! (IE: The Current IRAQ War!) 3) Outsourcing - Yes it does save a little money but you are also giving other countrys possible trade secrets and worst of all you are giving away AMERICAN JOBS! It hurts the economy and makes us hate other countrys! Okay enough for now I have a meeting to go to but I will be back! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "i love problems! Satellite radio companies are problematic [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_03_10_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_6DC31F14-D6A4-4805-9E58-38757BA02F42&provider=MarketWatch.com[/url]"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]i love problems! Satellite radio companies are problematic [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_03_10_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_6DC31F14-D6A4-4805-9E58-38757BA02F42&provider=MarketWatch.com[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah SIRI keeps YoYoing aroung its crazy... Good time to buy is NOW before they go up again. But I highly bought they will hit $8 a share. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "am not sure they are going up just yet... heard a "rumor" of a new low of around $3 something.... i'm not so sure i really wanna see this low b/c that is getting close to $2, which is getting to close to real penny land, and recovery from there doesn't seem to be easy once a stock has fallen that much, yes?"

drsuck said: "THE BIG QUESTION! WILL SIRIUS START THE BOUNCE ON MONDAY OR WILL THEY FALL EVEN LOWER! Based upon rumors that Fireopal is saying it might hit as low as $3 a share holy crap... definitely a good time to buy... i might even buy 20,000 shares then. For investment sake! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "hmmm - maybe if you buy enough of them they will pay for my bmw when they go back up.... and if they don't then you can buy me a matchbox bmw toy in exchange for being called 'god' for 2 days..... lol."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]hmmm - maybe if you buy enough of them they will pay for my bmw when they go back up.... and if they don't then you can buy me a matchbox bmw toy in exchange for being called 'god' for 2 days..... lol.[/QUOTE] LOL, either way there will be a BMW in your drive way haha Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "giggling - the visuals of the matchbox car in my driveway are pretty funny!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]giggling - the visuals of the matchbox car in my driveway are pretty funny![/QUOTE] LOL more and more it looks like a matchbox because your stock (SIRI) isnt doing so well lately! @ $4.701 a share not good not at all :P Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "it's not over yet... we still have a year and a half to go and if you are buying at these levels then you just may be real happy when 2008 comes - so there!!!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]it's not over yet... we still have a year and a half to go and if you are buying at these levels then you just may be real happy when 2008 comes - so there!!!![/QUOTE] Oh I am buying at these levels ;) shh even though I dont like SIRI i do like their stock which is a very very very bad stock play by the way, never do it! It might turn around and bite me in the ass and I might lose my BMW... nah lol :P Dr. Stock"

wildmandan32 said: "I don;t know what you guys are smoking SIRI is U.G.L.Y!!! I for one can not imagine INVESTING in this company with the outlook of what it "may" look like in 18 months !!!!!!!! good grief, I can think of LOTS of better places to put my money to work, even if it does turn around :rolleyes: I can not believe you are accumulating now, just look at the chart it looks like you are standing on the top of mt everest looking down, IF it turns around there will be many buying opportunities, that is just the way this stock has traded, but I would not be chasing this dog down, if anything I'd be looking for some sign of strength b4 accumulating. but good luck I really love the service and i'd hate to see it disappear so thank you"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=wildmandan32]I don;t know what you guys are smoking SIRI is U.G.L.Y!!! I for one can not imagine INVESTING in this company with the outlook of what it "may" look like in 18 months !!!!!!!! good grief, I can think of LOTS of better places to put my money to work, even if it does turn around :rolleyes: I can not believe you are accumulating now, just look at the chart it looks like you are standing on the top of mt everest looking down, IF it turns around there will be many buying opportunities, that is just the way this stock has traded, but I would not be chasing this dog down, if anything I'd be looking for some sign of strength b4 accumulating. but good luck I really love the service and i'd hate to see it disappear so thank you[/QUOTE] That is why Wildmandan I took the bet against Fireopal ;) Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "and note wildman that he didn't own any shares when the bet was made BUT did a TURN COAT move and came on in when it dropped...."

fireopal said: "just checked - still mega sales going through and now it's down to $4.66.... oh boy...."

wildmandan32 said: "I must be missing something"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=wildmandan32]I must be missing something[/QUOTE] Okay i'll clarify it with you... I bet against SIRI doing well but after researching it a lot more and finding it nearing the 52wk low I decided to buy a minor amount of shares... well minor to some people... But my predictions are right and it is dropping like a fly or a satellite from the sky. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "giggling >>> great buy @ 4.59.....c'mon wildman you can do it!!!! and also note that the reason that dr. stock did buy was because somone he trusts said ????????????????????????????????????????????? will let him explain that one too.... no matter what the boy is a turn coat and he well knows that this satalite is probably just flying close to the earth to take a look at what's going on down here in the trenches and will be heading back on up to that sky soon enough - or so i hope anyway."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]giggling >>> great buy @ 4.59.....c'mon wildman you can do it!!!! and also note that the reason that dr. stock did buy was because somone he trusts said ????????????????????????????????????????????? will let him explain that one too.... no matter what the boy is a turn coat and he well knows that this satalite is probably just flying close to the earth to take a look at what's going on down here in the trenches and will be heading back on up to that sky soon enough - or so i hope anyway.[/QUOTE] The on going trend of uses of SIRI has continued to increase. Recently Golds Gym franchises have been purchasing SIRI satellite radio and services for their gyms throughout the United States, other gyms following (IE: LA Fitness and Curves) They are choosing SIRI because of the selection they get and that their customers want it while they are there. There is also other factors why I purchased it and when it does go back up I will let you know... also you should read the PDF or I should somehow host it on a server and post the link for everyone to read... did you enjoy it Fireopal? Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "yes i am enjoying pdf - still have more to read and am doing it in between other things - like getting my taxes ready for my accountant (yuck) but it is very good... may have a quesiton or 2 for you but won't know until i finish... like your idea of posting it here, alhough, i am getting that there may be only 2 of us that actually do own this stock so maybe there is no need?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]yes i am enjoying pdf - still have more to read and am doing it in between other things - like getting my taxes ready for my accountant (yuck) but it is very good... may have a quesiton or 2 for you but won't know until i finish... like your idea of posting it here, alhough, i am getting that there may be only 2 of us that actually do own this stock so maybe there is no need?[/QUOTE] True a lot of people probably think that this is a bad investment... some though NNVC.PK was a bad investment but I bought it and so did Mar and a few others and they got a good profit! I still dont like SIRI as a company, their stock is low and predicted to bounce back up that is why I am buying but other than that my broker friend did help me over the edge and buy it. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "actually didn't realize that i i only had one page left to read and the rest was glossary... pdf seems to indicate this year is gonna be a tough one and the share price is reflecting this, so all seems to be on track... save me from back tracking and reading thread again - what is it about siri that you don't like - or is it satleite radio (both companies) in general?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]actually didn't realize that i i only had one page left to read and the rest was glossary... pdf seems to indicate this year is gonna be a tough one and the share price is reflecting this, so all seems to be on track... save me from back tracking and reading thread again - what is it about siri that you don't like - or is it satleite radio (both companies) in general?[/QUOTE] You directing this to me? Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "ahh, yeah."

fireopal said: "hey dr. stock, so is not answering your way of telling me that it's posted and you want me to go back and read again, yes? or do you not want to state your reason for not liking siri?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]hey dr. stock, so is not answering your way of telling me that it's posted and you want me to go back and read again, yes? or do you not want to state your reason for not liking siri?[/QUOTE] No I have just been very busy lately especially with such a great market like today! Wonderful turn around my NNVC.PK went up a lot on my speculation of another run like I mentioned on one of these threads. The reason I do not like SIRI is because the company is in DEBT! They need to earn money instead of wasting money. I also do not like their service. I have had XMSR and SIRI both and both of them are just crap. I rarely listen to the radio let alone a radio station that sucks a lot! No commercials? How the fuck are they going to make their money... oh thats right charge the customer? Thats gay! Radio should be free like it is now, not charge for a service that is the same thing but you have to pay for it and listen to people talk about crap (Howard Stern). I can elaborate more but I have been very busy... I might when I get home from work! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "i get it and you actually are right in that commercials do pay but if they (both) get good programs lined up, which they (or at least siri) seems to be working real hard to do then more will subscribe... today i was in my car and decided to listen to the radio b/c like you i don't like to... timed the commercials and no lie it was like 5 minutes and then just a few of actual music before commercials.... even npr has gotten pretty bad with commercials so i think it will be very great once they get things pulled together b/c there will be so many more options outside of music, news and sports.... closed real low today is all i know but this is supposed to be a rough one for em so we shall see.... and hey, am actually glad that you became a turn coat and own some of this with me!!!"

drsuck said: "Commercials are sometimes good... It gets the word out on new company's or restaurants that we might pass by unless it catches our ears or we hear it a lot over and over. Thats what is great about advertisments. I like the idea of listening to endless music, but hell if I wanted that I could just put a couple cd's in my 12 cd changer in the car. They have to do something revolutionary... Big deal satellite radio, it is still radio! Plus do I want to hear about some sleeze ball talking all the time about hookers and his wife... I mean come on you pay Howard Stern to talk, its better to see him on TV! This way you atleast see the people. They need something hard hitting something new. I wish I could give them some input some ideas that company would flourish! It is a decent idea, but it needs something NEW! They need to make it better. I still like what they got going and I am betting on them figuring something new out, something better than just radio that you have to pay for. It is like bottled water, good god its just water (oh but wait its healthier because it comes from a spring next to a nuclear power plant?) I mean wow! People are marketing everything, I should sell lint! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "i hear what you are saying but am not so sure i agree with having commercials b/c they are VERY annoying.... hope they pull it off b/c i like music but have other things that i reserve for long car rides and there is much opportunity for soooo many different types of programs, which i really get they will do.... and hey - i saw someone selling a tinfoil space hat on ebay, which was very funny so you probably could sell lint... might wanna put a magical spin on it to get higher bids! lol."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]i hear what you are saying but am not so sure i agree with having commercials b/c they are VERY annoying.... hope they pull it off b/c i like music but have other things that i reserve for long car rides and there is much opportunity for soooo many different types of programs, which i really get they will do.... and hey - i saw someone selling a tinfoil space hat on ebay, which was very funny so you probably could sell lint... might wanna put a magical spin on it to get higher bids! lol.[/QUOTE] I hope it goes up also since I invested some money into it. I also got a good chunk of $$ from NNVC.PK recently... Bought $1500 @ 1.75 a share and sold for 2.43 a share not bad but something :D Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Bought $1500 @ 1.75 a share and sold for 2.43 a share not bad but something :D Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] not bad at all - looks like it is still moving up > 2.48"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]not bad at all - looks like it is still moving up > 2.48[/QUOTE] Yup Mar and I kept praising this stock and we both made money but I dont think anyone listened... Its great it drops down and then goes back up recently! Thats why I bought again at $1.75 Dr. Stock PS. BUY GE NOW! Just a little inside tip ;)"

fireopal said: "if this ge is general electric then my step dad used to work for company and i can't believe i never even thought about this play but will go read thread... looks like it has been hanging in the 30's for quite awhile - where do you see it going?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]if this ge is general electric then my step dad used to work for company and i can't believe i never even thought about this play but will go read thread... looks like it has been hanging in the 30's for quite awhile - where do you see it going?[/QUOTE] Read the thread but I am seeing it going above $41 in a year maybe more. Its too early really to tell where it is going to end up but I know it will be above $41. Great company have been following them for years and waiting for this play! Great company, great price and great dividends you wont be mad with this one. It will treat you better than AMD and SIRI! The key is to buy it before it hits $34.00 a share... and it is in limbo below that price. Once it hits $35 it will boom. Keep an eye on it and thank me later. Dr. Stock"

drsuck said: "Fireopal check your e-mail at your website I gave you a little information about GE in PDF format. Enjoy, Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "siri was never even considered (just a gut test play) but better than amd - really?"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Fireopal check your e-mail at your website I gave you a little information about GE in PDF format. Enjoy, Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] just came - thanks!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]siri was never even considered (just a gut test play) but better than amd - really?[/QUOTE] GE has more factors than a boom that AMD had. You have to remember that GE is at the top of the game, they have been around for awhile and making great products. They also have a beautiful dividend that AMD nor SIRI has at this point. When you invest in this stock you get not only their performance but their dividends that is very valuable! I am investing in GE for the long run instead of just a quick play like SIRI will be. GE is more for year to year. Good to have in your portfolio especially your IRA. Great stock to retire on. Dr. Stock"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]just came - thanks![/QUOTE] ;) You're welcome."

drsuck said: "Well back to SIRI... Looks like a lot of PR is coming out on SIRI but the % is a little low so far. I expect to see it end on the uptrend today especially with Cosmo Radio Channel debut on SIRI. Great potential and hopefully will be seeing a $5.00 close on SIRI by the end of the month. This would being the bounce back of SIRI. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "wow - 4.46 but many sales still going through.... think i may get some more at this level, so i can start selling as it moves back up and get some (if not most all) of my money back and then ride whatever is left...."

jhealey said: "I read somewhere that 44% of consumers use satellite radio...I still wont touch either of these. Would be fun to swing trade these though."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=jhealey]I read somewhere that 44% of consumers use satellite radio...I still wont touch either of these. Would be fun to swing trade these though.[/QUOTE] I bought it because I had some extra money and I like the risk! :D Plus I know it will go up and I will make atleast a 75 - 125% profit on this company. Dr. Stock"

jhealey said: "[QUOTE=drstock]I bought it because I had some extra money and I like the risk! :D Plus I know it will go up and I will make atleast a 75 - 125% profit on this company. Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] In what time frame? I know it is going to take SIRI sometime to post profit... especially after giving Stern 1/2 billion$..or are you in XMSR?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=jhealey]In what time frame? I know it is going to take SIRI sometime to post profit... especially after giving Stern 1/2 billion$..or are you in XMSR?[/QUOTE] SIRI I would give it 12 - 18 months. Honestly it might start its rebound next week... Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "stock - when you come on check for pm."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]stock - when you come on check for pm.[/QUOTE] Gotcha ;) Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "good article so here is to making it through 2006!! [B]MSN Money Journal: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 Rational Investor Jamie Dlugosch [/B] Stay calm -- all is well There is a great line at the end of Animal House when members of Delta House are ransacking the town. Amidst the chaos, a young Kevin Bacon implores everyone to �remain calm, all is well.� When market participants act crazy, as they are now doing with Sirius Satellite Radio (SIRI, news, msgs), I think of that line and chuckle. Long term, Rational Investors need to have a sense of humor in order to withstand the unavoidable momentary lapses of judgment that can cripple even the greatest of stocks. It is not pleasant when it happens, but any Sirius long needs to keep things in perspective. Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, has changed in the last few months that would suggest that the long term prospects of Sirius will be anything but fantastic. The company blew away subscriber estimates in 2005 and announced that 2006 would be another year of 100% growth. The market for satellite radio is growing at a feverish clip with minimal threat of competition. Advertising revenue is becoming part of the story as customers prove that superior content is worth the price of admission, even it if it comes with an ad or two. Growth will continue Can there be any doubt that Sirius will reach 25 million subscribers or more over the long haul? This writer thinks not. Heck, it will only take a few years of 100% growth to reach that goal. In fact, I may be too conservative with that estimate. With a domestic auto market, the home for most satellite radios, now including satellite radio as standard equipment, I�m most certain that 25 million is at the low end of what future use will be. Allow yourself to imagine what the revenue potential will be with that type of customer base. I�ve said it before, but I will say it again. I expect the price for service to increase over time. I also expect significant dollars to be generated from advertising. Add in streaming video and any other peripheral service, and the profit potential is quite large. Ah, but the stock already reflects that value, you say? Nonsense, I say. I can easily see how this company generates $10 billion in sales down the road. A very modest multiple of sales of two generates a market cap of $20 billion. No real reason to sell At the laughable price of $4.45 at today�s close Sirius trades at a market cap of one quarter of that $20 billion estimate. Now I have no problem with a stock that sells-off, but the current selling is a joke. There is no reason to sell here if you understand the risks involved. The return potential, especially now, could be quite large. Don�t give in to the bashers, most of whom are pencil-neck numbers geeks that couldn�t see the forest through the trees if their lives depended on it. When there is real evidence that the future is tainted, then we should have some concern. Until then, I reaffirm my belief in Sirius. I challenge you to name one company that has a product that can serve a market as potentially large as satellite radio. There are few if any. Just remember Kevin Bacon and his call for calm. All is indeed well."

fireopal said: "good deal! Volkswagen of America, Inc. Signs Exclusive Agreement With SIRIUS Satellite Radio [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_03_17_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_030836B3-F45C-4AB9-BF02-BF92D6B9BE7C&provider=PRNewswire[/url]"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]good deal! Volkswagen of America, Inc. Signs Exclusive Agreement With SIRIUS Satellite Radio [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_03_17_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_030836B3-F45C-4AB9-BF02-BF92D6B9BE7C&provider=PRNewswire[/url][/QUOTE] YAY! Good news... I used to own a Volkswagen when I was little tyke :D I think besides the MG I had it was one of my first cars. The stock is doing great today! Dr. Stock Good post Fireopal!"

fireopal said: "with a pr like this - it shoud be doing good today!! and my first car was a classic 1964 beetle that my grandfather bought for me... kinda forgot to check the oil and blew the engine on the way home from a beach weekend @ 5 am... some farmer came along with chickens or something and gave me a ride home....."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]with a pr like this - it shoud be doing good today!! and my first car was a classic 1964 beetle that my grandfather bought for me... kinda forgot to check the oil and blew the engine on the way home from a beach weekend @ 5 am... some farmer came along with chickens or something and gave me a ride home.....[/QUOTE] LOL first car that caused problems was my Spitfire, the hood flew off while doing 60mph on a back road the hood flew for about a football field lol. Landed perfectly and no dents nor scratches. Those were the days! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "you said you sold some in other thread - did you sell all? i didn't sell any b/c i'm pretty sure i will have plenty of time for that..."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]you said you sold some in other thread - did you sell all? i didn't sell any b/c i'm pretty sure i will have plenty of time for that...[/QUOTE] I sold a little but still hold a lot of it. Was a great day today! Dr. Stock"

drsuck said: "This morning looks like a start of something big for SIRI. Prev. close @ 4.89, ticks are hitting B: 5.03 A: 5.04, going to be a good day. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "price now $5.21.... flippers probably loving this one today! Sirius Satellite tops 4 million subscribers [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3De-trade_delv_2006_03_20_etrade_reuters-eng-reuters_SIRIUS-SATELLITE-TOPS-MILLION-SUBSCRIBERS&provider=ReutersUSCompanyNews[/url]"

Avernus said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]price now $5.21.... flippers probably loving this one today! Sirius Satellite tops 4 million subscribers [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3De-trade_delv_2006_03_20_etrade_reuters-eng-reuters_SIRIUS-SATELLITE-TOPS-MILLION-SUBSCRIBERS&provider=ReutersUSCompanyNews[/url][/QUOTE] wow, I surely didn't see this coming... I was watching this closely just a couple months ago and was watching it awhile before that....I counted it out big time..."

fireopal said: "you aren't the only one that has been thinking/believing this one is going nowhere BUT i know better --- or at least i think i do anyway lol...."

Avernus said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]you aren't the only one that has been thinking/believing this one is going nowhere BUT i know better --- or at least i think i do anyway lol....[/QUOTE] ahaha I thought I did until I heard about the Howard Stern broadcasts being bootlegged and people weren't purchasing Sirius radio's for their house and car... I think when they recently came out with their portable player, it broadened their horizons... but 4 million subscribers isn't what I expected until later this year with the way things were going... maybe there's hope afterall....and if I miss the boat, oh well...there's other fish in the tank lol"

drsuck said: "Very good day today huh Fireopal? Looks like we are due for another one tomorrow. Hope to make some more $$$. Did you get on the GE boat yet... I forget if you did or not... Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "[QUOTE=drstock]Very good day today huh Fireopal? Looks like we are due for another one tomorrow. Hope to make some more $$$. Did you get on the GE boat yet... I forget if you did or not... Dr. Stock[/QUOTE] it was a good day for flipping but i want a few more of these kinds of days to try and get my investment covered and ride for free... closed low today and am actually hoping it goes down a bit more if not below $5 again, which i think it may do (at least b/f the year ends) - what do you think??? and yeah, got a few shares of ge and may add a few more since i made some good money on dlov today..."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]it was a good day for flipping but i want a few more of these kinds of days to try and get my investment covered and ride for free... closed low today and am actually hoping it goes down a bit more if not below $5 again, which i think it may do (at least b/f the year ends) - what do you think??? and yeah, got a few shares of ge and may add a few more since i made some good money on dlov today...[/QUOTE] There is a good possibility of it returning below $5 a share, although with all the PR and sales they have been getting this might be rare to see SIRI below $5 a share. Only time will tell. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "yeah - $5.02 now so maybe it will be heading back down a bit again!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]yeah - $5.02 now so maybe it will be heading back down a bit again![/QUOTE] Settled down after the PR boost but dont worry it will go back up after the sellers make some money, good time to buy still. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "under $5. now - yippee!!!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]under $5. now - yippee!!!![/QUOTE] Oh yeah time to buy a lot more! Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "sheesh - b/f leaving i bought some @ 4.96 and now it's 4.86 so i'll wait and see how low it goes b/cf buying more...."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]sheesh - b/f leaving i bought some @ 4.96 and now it's 4.86 so i'll wait and see how low it goes b/cf buying more....[/QUOTE] Bad move. It is headed down to $4.70. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "now ya tell me!!"

The Penny Stock King said: "I have a gut feeling that sirius is goin to break its 52 week low within the next week.. I would buy when it does.."

fireopal said: "yep - another one that has the same feeling... i thnk it may head down to around the high $3. range - what do you get?"

fireopal said: "Motley Fool Sirius: Content Over Convenience Wednesday March 22, 1:13 pm ET By Brian Gorman Duopolies are fun to follow, because the competition often takes on the appearance of a chess game or a military campaign: One player makes a move, only to be countered by its rival. Sirius Satellite Radio (Nasdaq: SIRI - News) and XM Satellite Radio (Nasdaq: XMSR - News) are no exception. In this contest, Sirius' recent exclusive agreement with Volkswagen and Audi provides evidence that even though XM's strategy has given it a good lead, Sirius' game plan may help it win the match. An essential component of XM's approach has been to get its product in front of consumers, and the company has done a terrific job of forming partnerships to accomplish that goal. In addition to exclusive deals with big automakers such as General Motors (NYSE: GM - News), Toyota, and Honda, the company has made more unusual connections with firms such as Starbucks (NYSE: SBUX - News), Time Warner's (NYSE: TWX - News) America Online, and United Airlines parent UAL to give consumers a taste of XM content. To date, Sirius has been less aggressive in forging such alliances. The firm does have some arrangements, including its pacts with DaimlerChrysler (NYSE: DCX - News) and Ford (NYSE: F - News). Still, it's telling that while shopping recently for stereo components, I frequently encountered receivers that had XM built in, but not once did I come across a receiver that was Sirius-ready. Until Sirius signed Howard Stern, XM's strategy made a lot of sense. Both satellite outfits had similar content, and as a first mover with a big lead in subscribers, XM could make an effective case to prospective partners that its offering was the VHS to Sirius' Betamax. But now, XM's strategy could be in serious trouble. Because Sirius has fewer partners, it has less of a conventional marketing presence than XM, and it's harder to adopt because it isn't embedded in as many vehicles or audio components. Nonetheless, subscribers are flocking to Sirius, and this growth in turn will bring more alliances. The initial evidence of this dynamic is Volkswagen's and Audi's agreement; before, they had offered both XM and Sirius as options. XM's strategy has been to build a brand and make it easy for consumers to sign up for its service. But Sirius is showing that compelling content may be able to trump marketing and convenience. Time Warner and Starbucks are Motley Fool Stock Advisor recommendations; XM Satellite Radio is a Rule Breakers recommendation. Fool contributor Brian Gorman is a freelance writer in Chicago. He does not own shares of any companies mentioned in this article."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]yep - another one that has the same feeling... i thnk it may head down to around the high $3. range - what do you get?[/QUOTE] :eek: 3?!?! Ahhh Id be crying. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "c'mon - even if it does go to that level it will go back up and just think of the returns on that - awesome!!!"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]c'mon - even if it does go to that level it will go back up and just think of the returns on that - awesome!!![/QUOTE] I know just having some fun :D I honestly dont see it going that low especially with all the business they have been getting, they are poised for a big gain now. Dr. Stock"

drsuck said: "Fireopal, Did you ever hear of WorldSpace? They have been claiming to be the first Satellite Radio company and the largest. Check them out [url]http://www.worldspace.com[/url]. Stock Quote WRSP (common stock) Exchange NASDAQ (US Dollar) Price $6.85 Change (%) Stock is Up 0.90 (15.13%) Volume 2,022,947 Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "i have heard of em but don't much about em... will check em out more in the next few days but as far as i can tell, they don't even seem to be on the board with siri and xm but i guess this could change real quick too...."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]i have heard of em but don't much about em... will check em out more in the next few days but as far as i can tell, they don't even seem to be on the board with siri and xm but i guess this could change real quick too....[/QUOTE] Yup just wanted to bring it up to you just incase you are looking to invest in the whole Satellite Radio field. Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "thanks for reminding me! BUT my money (or my thoughts if my money is not) will always be with the underdog... although - if they were the largest than why is xm trading higher?"

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]if they were the largest than why is xm trading higher?[/QUOTE] Exactly! You caught on :D, they are said to be the 'largest' company out there, BUT they are not trading like they are... hmm makes me wonder how voliatile their stock is... Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "hmm - there might be some good plays there, will havta watch em for a few and see..."

drsuck said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]hmm - there might be some good plays there, will havta watch em for a few and see...[/QUOTE] Might be... anyway SIRI had a terrific day! :D Dr. Stock"

fireopal said: "yeah they did and pretty good volume too.... was out most of the day and just finished checking all of my stocks and thought this one would go lower and probably shoulda set the buy when it was in the $4.70 range.... now i gotta wait and catch it next time..."

fireopal said: "not very big news but some good news....volume is looking pretty good this morning too. Sirius gets upgrade at J.P. Morgan March 27, 2006 10:53:31 (ET) [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3Detrade_2006_03_27_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_eng-etrade_cbs2_market_watch_F1C57E85-DDC4-4C7B-BFA5-C78E08113C8B&provider=MarketWatch.com[/url]"

lostsock said: "from msn money jamie dlugosch 3/27/06 My best bet for a double: Sirius I�ve purposely been very conservative in the management of my Strategy Lab portfolio during this round. I own a fully invested portfolio of diversified holdings from a variety of sectors that I believe to be undervalued. My goal was to minimize risk and generate positive returns while exceeding market index benchmarks. So far, so good; I've achieved all of the above goals. Considering I spent the first month slowly deploying my stocks while the market rallied, I would say that the results have been fantastic. It is interesting to note that even with this conservative approach, a handful of my positions have enjoyed significant gains. The biggest winner, OmniVision Technologies (OVTI, news, msgs) has more than doubled in value. Yesterday, shares of OVTI busted through the 100% mark on optimistic comments from the analyst community. Chemical maker OM Group (OMG, news, msgs) has appreciated by more than 60% since I added shares to my portfolio. Two other positions, CSX Corp. (CSX, news, msgs) and CKE Restaurants (CKR, news, msgs), added more than 25%. Four more positions added 15% or more. Hitting 7 strong performers in a portfolio of 22 positions is quite a winning percentage and more than offsets the small number of losing positions. That�s how it goes with Rational Investing. Our winners win more than our losers lose. 4 million subs and counting In fact, when building a portfolio, I am of singular focus in finding attractive candidates that I believe have the potential to double in value or more. Peppering a portfolio with any number of these opportunities can supercharge returns. Readers here know that my four iterations of Strategy Lab portfolios have produced numerous positions that have been huge winners, and that has certainly been true during the current round. Are there any positions in my portfolio that have the potential to double in value? Absolutely. I think Sirius Satellite Radio (SIRI, news, msgs), which I've written about many times here, has the greatest potential to double in value or more over time. Shares may be down in the short run -- the stock is the largest drag on my portfolio at the moment -- but in the long run, future growth could bode well for current owners. Earlier in the week, SIRI announced that it had surpassed the 4-million mark in subscriptions. With the company expecting 6 million subs for the entire year, hitting this number so early is a clear indication that growth will once again be greater than expected. This is truly fantastic news if you are a long-term holder of the stock. I have no idea why there is so much animosity toward the company and its future prospects, but I really don�t care. If subs keep growing like this, I am most certain the share price will follow in due course. I�ve written before that I believe the top range of the market for SIRI is 25 million subs. At the current growth rate, the company will hit that number much sooner than I anticipated. It really may only take a few years to get there. The revenue and profit potential with that type of base is more than worth the risk of paying a premium on the stock today. In fact, SIRI is one of my Rational Investor favorite stocks. [url]http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Stratlabs/Round13/P148618.asp[/url]"

Hanger said: "More or less an FYI on SIRI... In case anyone missed it, Jim Cramer said sell SIRI tonight..........so chances are to expect a drop in the morning......as too many people seem to follow his advice verbatim... Might give a good chance to get back in, especially with the upgrade...."

fireopal said: "already dipped below $5. today and a bigger drop is what i'm waiting for - want more at lower prices!!"

Hanger said: "Looks pretty attractive under 5.... If we see 4.8 I am back in"

fireopal said: "[B]Sprint eyes mobile music subscriptions[/B] [url]https://us.etrade.com/e/t/invest/Story?ID=STORYID%3De-trade_delv_2006_03_28_etrade_reuters-eng-reuters_SPRINT-EYES-MOBILE-MUSIC-SUBSCRIPTIONS&provider=ReutersUSCompanyNews[/url]"

Hanger said: "Well thats good news....stock seems to be hovering around 4.99 this morning.... Just my watching it, havent charted it yet, seems to be a solid support line around the 5.00 mark.....I don't think I am going to get my wish of it coming a little bit further.... I still think I like the 9-12 month return window, but have to do some more DD, and see.... Good luck in the interim on this one fireopal"

fireopal said: "hanger - still have plenty of months left in 2006 and this year is supposed to be the rough one, so it'll probably come down lower and may hit the $4.70 range or lower again, or so i hope..."

Harry said: "[QUOTE=fireopal]hanger - still have plenty of months left in 2006 and this year is supposed to be the rough one, so it'll probably come down lower and may hit the $4.70 range or lower again, or so i hope...[/QUOTE] This certainly isn't going to help the stock. What is Stern thinking? [url]http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/ap/20060331/114385080010.html[/url]"

bobjitsu said: "[QUOTE=Harry]This certainly isn't going to help the stock. What is Stern thinking? [url]http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/ap/20060331/114385080010.html[/url][/QUOTE] [b]"I was just at my psychiatrist and I said, `I just got great news: We hit the 4 million mark. And I'm angry. It should be 20 million,'" Stern says in the magazine, on newsstands Monday.[/b] Stern's "20 million" are more like 2 million if that, he is dillisional or an egomaniac...well both it looks like. Earlier in this thread I said Stern likes to talk out of his ass and his listeners think it is the Gospel, this proves it."

lil dickie said: "He gets paid so much they almost can't get enough subcribers to cover it."

techtrader said: "I would like this stock a lot more long term if it dipped to the 4.50 range again. Looks like there is a short term rise to me. Maybe some good buying oppertunities in the next 2 weeks. I've included the chart. I will look to get in at a lower buyin."

TCR said: "[QUOTE=techtrader]I would like this stock a lot more long term if it dipped to the 4.50 range again. Looks like there is a short term rise to me. Maybe some good buying oppertunities in the next 2 weeks. I've included the chart. I will look to get in at a lower buyin.[/QUOTE] I def like the way that chart looks"

lil dickie said: "I like that chart too. Looks like an upswing is coming."

jhealey said: "[QUOTE=TCR]I def like the way that chart looks[/QUOTE] Chart looks nice except the Stoch is pointing at Overbought. Besides that the short and long MAs are giving a positive signal, and it looks like the signals on MACD are on an uptrend. [QUOTE=lil dickie]He gets paid so much they almost can't get enough subcribers to cover it.[/QUOTE] $500 million? Thats alot of $6.99/month subscriptions...I dont think they will cover this for a very very long time."

lil dickie said: "That's the whole problem. The paid too much for all the talent. They spend way too much money."

rlucas6130 said: "Get your facts right buddy. It's 12.95 a month. Plus, that 500 million that Stern got is a compilation of an annual salary(until 2010?) and stock options. Ultimately, sirius's subscriber growth in 2005 and Q1 of 2006 will easily make this company profitable in 2007. This is a ticking time bomb at $5.06 / share. The question is when it will explode. Perhaps after the next 10-q?"

HappyHarry said: "The $500,000,000 is still real money."

JAP said: "Didn't Stern sell all the stock they gave him?"

rlucas6130 said: "Define real money? The 500 mill is not liquid. In options, per se, stern owns all 500 mill in stock. 500 mil / 7.03 bil (market cap) = 7%. Stern has a <7% (MAX) market share in the entire company. This is peanuts. I think people need to look at subscriber growth opposed to expenses and such. Stern should be the least of stockholder worries. Honestly, stock holders need to worry about satellite malfunctions if anything."

AlfredSokol said: "The company is losing money. They paid out money they can't afford to pay an idiot a half billion per year. Howard Stern is like 60 now? How long can he remain cool?"

BenHouston said: "[QUOTE=AlfredSokol]The company is losing money. They paid out money they can't afford to pay an idiot a half billion per year. Howard Stern is like 60 now? How long can he remain cool?[/QUOTE] Hes 52 January 12, 1954 (his birthday) lol I am not some obssesed fan..i googled it cmon now!"

rlucas6130 said: "[QUOTE=AlfredSokol]The company is losing money. They paid out money they can't afford to pay an idiot a half billion per year. Howard Stern is like 60 now? How long can he remain cool?[/QUOTE] Sokol, you can't just spit out numbers without doing research. It's not a half a billion a year. Thats the amount designated in his contract that lasts for about 6 to 7 years. He gets about 56 mill a year. Come on now. :confused:"

AlfredSokol said: "He's not worth $56 million per year. They only take in $84 million a month according to their 6.5 million user count and your $12.99 per month price. If they discount sales, then they're really hurting. $862,000,000 lost in 2005, a triple from 2002."

AlfredSokol said: "Damn, that was XM that had 6.5 million subs. Even fewer for SIRI."

techtrader said: "Out of nowhere up 6%"

AlfredSokol said: "[QUOTE=techtrader]Out of nowhere up 6%[/QUOTE] A Tsunami from hell indeed."

jhealey said: "You either have to swing this intraday or be in it for atleast 5 years to make money with these (the time value of money/the lost return while you wait may kill you). I dont play either but keep them watched on my watch list."

HappyHarry said: "You need $10,000 per trade to get excite about 6%. Maybe $5000."