3 Forums Ideas that's I'd like to see

Harry said: "[B][COLOR="Navy"]3 Forums Ideas that's I'd like to see...others sound in. [/COLOR][/B] 1. [B]Single Stock Threads[/B] While the existing forums structure should certainly continue I thought it would be interesting to create a place or a way to have posts/threads deicated to a single stock. Example: Like the GE (General Electric Thread) It would be an interesting way to correlate research, different perspectives, and one-stop shopping for that data. These forums pepper my overall knowledge with tidy oversight. It could be helpful. We could all have a thread deciated to each stock we own or watch. Responses should stray off topic. 2 [B]Poster Portfolio Threads[/B] A place were a poster can list and even change their portfolio with pros and cons from our little think tank. Again, responses shoudn't stray off topic. 3. [B]Mutual Fund Forum[/B] I'm 46, I need to be looking at mutual funds and am totally snow blind when I see all the lists and volumes of funds. I would be interesting to read other's comments about what they acquire and why, and how they rate certain funds. [FONT="Georgia"][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]This forum is extremely helpful to me because it always offers reinforcing information and challenges me at the same time. I feel that these ideas would serve the population and even step us up another level in maturity of information. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]"

thezster said: "[url]http://www.superiorinvestor.net/thread4148.html[/url]"

Harry said: "[QUOTE=thezster][url]http://www.superiorinvestor.net/thread4148.html[/url][/QUOTE] I remember that...it wasn't specififcally what I was asking for though, albeit I wish the Bonds forums was back with some experienced posters to "enlighten" us to some of the finer nuances. Even the housing market might have found a knowledgeable group to feather their nest there and share some individual unique experiences that none of us have. I know I don't get the final say but I wanted to voice my opinion and point out my yearning for a broader investment base of topics. "Just stocks" makes it feel a bit financially quadriplegic. This forum is positioned well on the search engines. We could sponge in some franchise experts, experience...etc. One of the reasons I left once was because people are too "proud" of their info and hype their gains. Heck, they could put a sign on their desk at work and accomplsih the same thing. Let's talk nuts-n-bolts here. Not dice-rolling and self-promoting of one's gains. I can tell you what I lost and what I gained, but aside from stroking my own ego, it contributes absolutely NOTHING to the group think tank dynamics."

Rickster said: "OK, I will take the other side of this issue about bragging. A large portion of the members here are new guys that come here to learn. And one of the best ways for them to learn is to watch the more experienced and successful guys. So I think it is important for the health of this forum, and the traders on it, to hear what the successful guys are doing. I think the traders here want to know what positions the successful trader took, why he took it, how big it was and how it worked out. It may seem like bragging on his part (if he is successful), and it may be gratifying to his ego. So what? It doesn't bother me. I am successful at my methods and I don't resent someone else that is successful at theirs, even (and especially if) they use different methods than I do. Actually, I like to see it. I can learn from it. I can monitor the ongoing mood of the others. And I can adapt the techniques of others to my style of trading. Recently we have gained some more experienced folks. Some short term traders and some long term. I am interested in how they are doing and how they are doing it. And if I were a newbie, I would want to have some idea of which guys are actually trading successfully, which guys are also newbies, and which guys are pretender wannabes. If I am here for experience, I want to know who to listen to. So I would want to hear how well the guy I am listening to is doing. And I would want to know which guys to ignore because they talk over their heads."

thezster said: "Seems to me that the life of a thread is a solid indicator of the interest of the group in the subject matter. If you want a thread on the fundamentals of GE, for example.... start one. If it stays alive - and on track, then it would seem the general concensus is that the participants want it. If it dies or goes offtrack.... then obviously it's going where the participants want it to go. I've seen threads here run for months on end.... varying a bit here and there, but generally staying on track. They've lasted because there was an interest in the content as presented. I've seen threads die with the first post - because there was no interest in the content as presented. Don't complain about the lack of in depth investment research.... create it! If others want the same thing you want.. it will flourish. As far as the "Ego Stroking" contributing NOTHING to the group think tank dynamics.... I disagree - with your terminology, your definition, and your thesis. It might contribute nothing to you.... but, as it seems to thrive here, and people appreciate/enjoy/learn from it...It obviously contributes something to the group think tank. I know I've personally made a nice piece of change this year (and isn't that what we're all here for?) due in part to a "heads up" from those nasty, ego stroking, stock guessing braggarts....... :th_dblthumb2: and hope it continues in the rational manner in which it has always been done."

thezster said: "[QUOTE=Rickster]. And I would want to know which guys to ignore because they talk over their heads.[/QUOTE] Ouch! :signs013:"

cwms said: "Seems to me there used to be a mutual fund forum a few months ago, but went away due to lack of interest"

Mr. Gekko said: "[QUOTE=cwms]Seems to me there used to be a mutual fund forum a few months ago, but went away due to lack of interest[/QUOTE] I believe you're right. Wasn't it under the "Let's Talk Stocks" section? Anyway, the forum was scaled back for a reason and I can only assume it will stay that way for a while."

crankitdb711 said: "can a thread be made to tell me how cool I am?"

Mr. Gekko said: "[QUOTE=crankitdb711]can a thread be made to tell me how cool I am?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.superiorinvestor.net/thread4347.html"]http://www.superiorinvestor.net/thread4347.html[/URL] The winner is [I]cool[/I]. :th_coolio:"

crankitdb711 said: "[QUOTE=Mr. Gekko][URL="http://www.superiorinvestor.net/thread4347.html"]http://www.superiorinvestor.net/thread4347.html[/URL] The winner is [I]cool[/I]. :th_coolio:[/QUOTE] So you're declaring me the winner? :D"

Mr. Gekko said: "[QUOTE=crankitdb711]So you're declaring me the winner? :D[/QUOTE] You know what happens when you [B]assume[/B]... [IMG]http://www.caribbeanart.com/art/j-portrait-donkey.jpg[/IMG]"

crankitdb711 said: "[QUOTE=Mr. Gekko]You know what happens when you [B]assume[/B]... [IMG]http://www.caribbeanart.com/art/j-portrait-donkey.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] I become a democrat? :wave:"

Mr. Gekko said: "[QUOTE=crankitdb711]I become a democrat? :wave:[/QUOTE] I would call you a smartass but, I think that's been covered."

crankitdb711 said: "[QUOTE=Mr. Gekko]I would call you a smartass but, I think that's been covered.[/QUOTE] :D aww I'm feeling the love"

Harry said: "[QUOTE=Rickster]OK, I will take the other side of this issue about bragging. A large portion of the members here are new guys that come here to learn. And one of the best ways for them to learn is to watch the more experienced and successful guys. So I think it is important for the health of this forum, and the traders on it, to hear what the successful guys are doing. I think the traders here want to know what positions the successful trader took, why he took it, how big it was and how it worked out. It may seem like bragging on his part (if he is successful), and it may be gratifying to his ego. So what? It doesn't bother me. I am successful at my methods and I don't resent someone else that is successful at theirs, even (and especially if) they use different methods than I do. Actually, I like to see it. I can learn from it. I can monitor the ongoing mood of the others. And I can adapt the techniques of others to my style of trading. Recently we have gained some more experienced folks. Some short term traders and some long term. I am interested in how they are doing and how they are doing it. And if I were a newbie, I would want to have some idea of which guys are actually trading successfully, which guys are also newbies, and which guys are pretender wannabes. If I am here for experience, I want to know who to listen to. So I would want to hear how well the guy I am listening to is doing. And I would want to know which guys to ignore because they talk over their heads.[/QUOTE] Don't be too critical on my "term" bragging. I understand people are proud and exuberant about their gains. It's those instances where the process is left out or referenced afterthe fact that makes those post a bit hollow. [B]Please note, I am not ~asking~ for anything to be changed...[/B] I'm just adding augmented ideas. Nothings changes...you can still learn from or ignor the same people. My added applications may even enhance "your goals". Right now a couple of people simply chime in with "Wow I just made a lot of money"... ...adding some single topic STOCK threads or protfollio threads, or stock watch threads can devine the think tank. I find stock talk are much more interesting when they posters excute their ideas in advance THEN they take off (or not) rather than simply posting lists of gains. (albeit some moves are made spontaneous) While the end results are what this is all about, I find thee processes of "getting there" much more interesting than the end results. This is what helps me in long tern or short term investments. The [B]trading talk[/B] and [B]investment talk[/B] absoutely clashes. New investors are going to have no clue why some are so positive on the sinking CAT for example. Nor do they have the money to get into trading mode. Traders play choppy charts regardless of how well (or not well) the stock plays. Ivestors are simply looking for bottoms or undervalues stock plays to ride up. We're literally too different beasts. Separating trades and investment talk makes great sense. Candle-sticking charts and examining fundamentals is 2 completely different games. If we restored a mutual fund forums I'd personally pile in info since I am now focused of SAFE long term gains. I'm ding a lot of homework and I would mind sharing it there for others to read or comment on. And let face it, for new investors with little money, mutual funds can be the more intelligent move in many respects when any diversification is impossible."

LongArm said: "[QUOTE=Harry] If we restored a mutual fund forums I'd personally pile in info since I am now focused of SAFE long term gains. I'm ding a lot of homework and I would mind sharing it there for others to read or comment on. And let face it, for new investors with little money, mutual funds can be the more intelligent move in many respects when any diversification is impossible.[/QUOTE] Harry, I personally would love to see a mutual fund forum, but I'm afraid there probably wouldn't be enough interested contributors on this board to support it. And I think one active forum is better than several dead forums. And I absolutely agree with you that new investors should generally start out with mutual funds (or ETFs). It's up to new investors to learn that--and a lot of other stuff--before acting on a CAT recommendation they see on a board. If investing newbies identify themselves as such, we can try to educate them somewhat, but then, we can't babysit everybody. Why not help the cause by posting your mutual fund findings here? If I can bore people with 'Value Vs. Growth' posts, you can post about mutual funds. :)"

thezster said: "[QUOTE=LongArm] If investing newbies identify themselves as such, we can try to educate them somewhat, but then, we can't babysit everybody. Why not help the cause by posting your mutual fund findings here? If I can bore people with 'Value Vs. Growth' posts, you can post about mutual funds. :)[/QUOTE] Well put.... We can't babysit everyone.... but, I believe we do a reasonable job of identifying the newbies and providing them with rational thought/caution/insight. I don't believe your thread of "Value/Growth" bored anyone... I recall some serious discourse there.... even though it didn't have it's own forum. Good job! LongArm is one of the new members of the forum and has added new insight via his posts/questions/comments. I, for one, am thrilled to have him join us - to offset us "guessing egotistical braggarts" - not to mention give us new food for thought."

drdan said: "Harry I agree with you that Investors and traders are totally different beasts. In fact I find it rather humourous that the title of this forum is Superior Investor yet it is filled mostly with traders. I think the newbies will figure it out if they read and if they want to. If a newbie were to come in here and read that some of us were glad that CAT is on its way down I would hope that they would wonder why and start reading more trying to figure it out. Personally I like your first post as it will give others ideas on what to post. This forum is dominated by about 15 of us up by 5 from last month. So maybe this will spur others to actually post."

LongArm said: "Z (may I call you Z?), thanks for the kind words!"

thezster said: "[QUOTE=LongArm]Z (may I call you Z?), thanks for the kind words![/QUOTE] Why not? everybody else does..... (and, Lord knows, I've been called worse)..... :signs053:"

Cryogenix said: "Another idea that might be interesting would be to have a forum where users create their own, personal post which contains progress on their daily or weekly trades or investments. Who they picked and why. What the outcome was. What worked and didn't work. What they learned, etc. That way, if there's a particular person whose insight and experience you want to follow, you can easily do so by diving into his or her trading journal and avoid having to wade through a sea of posts just to find the info you want from a particular person. Then, again...I suppose one could simply use the search function here to find posts from a certain individual."

LongArm said: "If another forum were to be created, I think a good idea might be to split the current "Let's Talk Stocks" forum into two: A Trader's forum, for those holding their stocks for, say, less than a year, and an Investor's forum, for those holding longer than a year. There would obviously be plenty of action in the Trader's forum, but the Investor's forum would encompass more than just, say, mutual funds (Harry's suggestion), so perhaps it would have enough life to sustain itself too."

crankitdb711 said: "[QUOTE=LongArm]If another forum were to be created, I think a good idea might be to split the current "Let's Talk Stocks" forum into two: A Trader's forum, for those holding their stocks for, say, less than a year, and an Investor's forum, for those holding longer than a year. There would obviously be plenty of action in the Trader's forum, but the Investor's forum would encompass more than just, say, mutual funds (Harry's suggestion), so perhaps it would have enough life to sustain itself too.[/QUOTE] The problem is, most people do a mix of each. I do have stocks longer than a year, but I also have stocks I bought Thursday. Also, I consider trading buying in the morning and selling a few hours later, while some traders may consider trading buying now and selling in 3 minutes. This (defining and maintaining the forums) would be a tough thing to pull off... ie. how would you differentiate which stock goes where... and while to some it would be trading, to others it would be investing. The classification of that stock into the appropriate forum would be brutal."

LongArm said: "[QUOTE=crankitdb711]The problem is, most people do a mix of each. I do have stocks longer than a year, but I also have stocks I bought Thursday. Also, I consider trading buying in the morning and selling a few hours later, while some traders may consider trading buying now and selling in 3 minutes. This (defining and maintaining the forums) would be a tough thing to pull off... ie. how would you differentiate which stock goes where... and while to some it would be trading, to others it would be investing. The classification of that stock into the appropriate forum would be brutal.[/QUOTE] I think you're overcomplicating it. It's not a matter of "which forum to place a stock," it's a matter of where posters post based on their philosophy. If Z wants to discuss his short-term CAT trade, he would do it in the Traders forum. If Harry wants to discuss his long-term CAT investment, he would do it in the Investors forum. And mutual funds, I-bonds and Roth IRAs would be discussed in the Investor's forum, as well. Seems pretty clear-cut and simple to me. :)"

crankitdb711 said: "[QUOTE=LongArm]I think you're overcomplicating it. It's not a matter of "which forum to place a stock," it's a matter of where posters post based on their philosophy. If Z wants to discuss his short-term CAT trade, he would do it in the Traders forum. If Harry wants to discuss his long-term CAT investment, he would do it in the Investors forum. And mutual funds, I-bonds and Roth IRAs would be discussed in the Investor's forum, as well. Seems pretty clear-cut and simple to me. :)[/QUOTE] Right, I'm hearing ya, but everyone ends up responding in the same threads and pretty soon in that one thread half the people are talking from an investing point of view and the other half from a trading point of view... this all with different variations of each. We can't even keep the "let's talk stocks" and "general discussion" forums subject matter separated.... :)"

LongArm said: "[QUOTE=crankitdb711]Right, I'm hearing ya, but everyone ends up responding in the same threads and pretty soon in that one thread half the people are talking from an investing point of view and the other half from a trading point of view... this all with different variations of each. We can't even keep the "let's talk stocks" and "general discussion" forums subject matter separated.... :)[/QUOTE] Yes, you're right, but I think there'd be [I]less[/I] chance of threads becoming morphed together if the thread began in either the Trading forum or Investing forum. As it is now, with just one forum, I think it's actually easier to mistinterpret whether a discussion about a stock is in regards to a trade or an investment. But, I, personally, don't mind one big forum. I was just saying [I]if[/I] a new forum were to be created, I think that would be a logical way to do it."

Rickster said: "As far as I am concerned, all the forums could be combined into one. I only use the New Posts button. I don't pay any attention to which specific forum a thread is in."

Mr. Gekko said: "[QUOTE=Rickster]As far as I am concerned, all the forums could be combined into one. I only use the New Posts button. I don't pay any attention to which specific forum a thread is in.[/QUOTE] I agree. That would reduce my chances of getting a Repetitive Strain Injury (less button pushing). It's bad enough I have to worry about getting Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from my job."

Harry said: "[QUOTE=Mr. Gekko]I agree. That would reduce my chances of getting a Repetitive Strain Injury (less button pushing). It's bad enough I have to worry about getting Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from my job.[/QUOTE] I can recommend a personal trainer. :)"