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halem111 said: "hi im new and i have been looking at investing in apple my views are that the iphone will now be competing with blackberry the iphone will be in new countries this year a new version of iphone will be out thus getting all the people who have been waiting to buy it the new movies and games section in itunes looks promising macs being bought are on the rise and probably a few more reasons would you say it is a good investment thanks"

Worthydaydream said: "It really depends. I have been trading Apple for some time now. Basically the way I see it, Do you think Apple will create a new *Good* product soon? iPhone has been out in America for almost a year and the product has all ready been reflected in the stock price. iPods are old technology, they have been around since 2001. The new Laptop that people expected to be Apples new hit... yeah, it wasn't all it cracked up to be. There is tons of reading material on the Air, but here is one example: [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/24/is-the-macbook-air-a-flop_n_83057.html[/url] In an economy headed towards recession, either Apple needs a new inspiring invention, or some sort of upturn economically."

lil dickie said: "Sales of ipods are definitely down. So you have to believe in the iphone to invest in Apple"

jacklynch123 said: ""iPods are old technology, they have been around since 2001."Worthydaydream Yes there old but they are still selling and they make new models"

Discover said: "I just regret I didn't buy it in '98."

crankitdb711 said: "[QUOTE=jacklynch123;65437]"iPods are old technology, they have been around since 2001."Worthydaydream Yes there old but they are still selling and they make new models[/QUOTE] And to your point... we could all name about a million technological products that came out before 2001 that continue to make money and continue to evolve into more ways to make new profits... That a product was introduced 7 years ago does not phase my opinion of aapl at all. Full disclosure: I am long aapl and will continue to buy more on any pullbacks. :th_dblthumb2:"

halem111 said: "so crank means your an apple investor perhaps you could give me some advice do you think now at 126 a share is a good time to invest or will it go down further whats the minimum amount you can buy do you think the share price will get above 200 again this year and are there any other stocks you recommend similar to apple kind regards"

soopadrive said: "Hello, I am also a new investory (just started this year) and my first purchase were a few shares of AAPL at $128.xx. I try not to look at how high a stock will go up as much as how low a stock can get. I almost bought a bundle when it hit $115.80 awhile back, and was 0.11 short on my 122.00 limit order a couple days ago when it hit 122.00 for a low (intermarket sweeps). I think we can expect to see some new lows this year as long as this recession thing plays out this year, but it's not likely to last very long according to some experts. The answer to your question really depends on whether you want to be a short term or long term shareholder with Apple. I plan on owning my shares long term as I really like Apple and what its done for the tech industry and for the consumers such as myself. They're great at innovation and show no signs of slowing down on that front. The important thing in making your decision in my estimation, is if you feel this is a good company and a good buy and have done your research, then I think this would be a good time to buy. Just don't let your emotions get the better of you and pull out when the going gets tough. Good luck and best wishes, soopadrive"

crankitdb711 said: "[QUOTE=halem111;65455]so crank means your an apple investor perhaps you could give me some advice do you think now at 126 a share is a good time to invest or will it go down further whats the minimum amount you can buy do you think the share price will get above 200 again this year and are there any other stocks you recommend similar to apple kind regards[/QUOTE] Hey man, I'm long AAPL, but that doesn't mean I know any more about what it will do than you or anyone else. I bought some at ~133 and some more at ~119. I do think it'll go up in the short and long terms - I could see it hitting 200 in the next 12 months but who knows, it could hit 100 or lower too. There aren't a lot of attractive tech plays right now - which does benefit AAPL, in that people will and have flocked to it. They're a tech innovation leader, they're still 'cool' to the tech geeks, they have a great brand, room to expand, their computers are growing hugely in popularity. If I were you, I'd pick some up here, if it hits sub-120's buy some more, sub-110's buy some more... and sell those chunks if/when/as they go up. My only other tech play is HPQ but I wouldn't recommend buying that here (but would on a pullback of a few points). I think AAPL's certainly a great buy here and if you have the coin, a good place to store that coin. Regarding your question on how much to buy - that's a relative term. I buy in what I consider my positions - a small and I add to the positions by buying more of those chunks until I gain an amount that I am happy to hold on to. Then I watch, research, pray, etc. No matter what, stay diversified and never panic sell."

Raharu Haruha said: "i think apple has a very good stock that will bounce back to at least some where close to where it was. i absolutely love their product and they're still the leading mp3 maker, but they will not be able to compete with the black berry for the business phone."

FatBucks said: "I've been pushing APPL even when it was at 200. At these levels, it's definately a buy for me. I've been slowly adding more on the pullbacks, and expect it to be back to 200 hopefully by years end. The MacAir is nice looking but personally I wouldn't buy it because I'd like my laptops to have a CD/DVD drive, but that's just me. I'm sure it'll be a good seller for business travelers and such. This Wi-Fi hard drive box that they just revelled a couple of weeks ago is very impressive I think. It's 300 bucks but being able to have everything backed up wireless is very cool, I think over time that product will do well. The movie distrubution deals they've been working with the studios on as well as the new iPhones coming out to me all point to a nice gain coming."

Cryogenix said: "Currently: 127.30 With a P/E of 28, a slumping economy and a bad chart, I don't see it returning to the 200.00 level for a very long time, if it ever does so again. In my view, this is going to 87.00 over the next couple of years."

halem111 said: "what really intrigues me about apple is how much they have put into r&d its more than they ever have done, and that can only mean good things. The iphone still hasnt gone mainstream if you ask me, i think alot of people are waiting for iphone 2.0 with 3g and bigger storage etc.....i know at least i am and obviously further price drops will increase demand the macbook air is for business people who are constantly on the move, if used for anything else its pointless you may as well buy a normal mac however in a years time im going to assume the features of macbook air will filter down to normal macs, so there will be thin normal macs meaning greater uptake of macs probably next year do you think the price will drop any lower than 127 as last week it was 118"

Cryogenix said: "I was basing my opinion off the 5-year chart. Looking at the 3- and 6-month charts, I think the decline is going to be more rapid, perhaps hitting the 100.00 mark within the next month. It may have a small rally to 135 in it, but I think that's a slim possibility. Despite all their good products, people are spending less and will continue to spend less, so all these new products don't amount to much if they can't move them."

Raharu Haruha said: "[QUOTE=halem111;65516]what really intrigues me about apple is how much they have put into r&d its more than they ever have done, and that can only mean good things. The iphone still hasnt gone mainstream if you ask me, i think alot of people are waiting for iphone 2.0 with 3g and bigger storage etc.....i know at least i am and obviously further price drops will increase demand the macbook air is for business people who are constantly on the move, if used for anything else its pointless you may as well buy a normal mac however in a years time im going to assume the features of macbook air will filter down to normal macs, so there will be thin normal macs meaning greater uptake of macs probably next year do you think the price will drop any lower than 127 as last week it was 118[/QUOTE] Trust me, they're not waiting for iphone 2.0. I'm something of a tech geek, and I haven't even heard of 2.0 before... People aren't buying it because it's too expensive. A majority of big time cell phone nerds are still 15-25 years old. In 5-10 years, everyone will have an iphone or something like it. It's definitely the future, but like i said, 5 - 10 years. + those things are REALLY COOL."

Hope2BGecko said: "Yeah I am kinda a follower of the tech stuff too (I was in the apple store yesterday...love that place!) They do have that apple box they are trying to push, with it you can watch movies anytime you want...no renting or anything, there are thousands just a click away. That could really help them maybe but I also heard they were having a hard time with getting all the titles they promised so they will prolly have to get that straightened out first. They also just shortly ago released the iPhone 16g so they got that out there now too Joshua"

StockMan69 said: "Dont forget that iPod sales were off by 11 million units last year. The craze seems to be over."

Raharu Haruha said: "[QUOTE=StockMan69;65821]Dont forget that iPod sales were off by 11 million units last year. The craze seems to be over.[/QUOTE]The big three went on to continue to keep making money for stock holders decades after the car craze of the 50's was over."

Cryogenix said: "Last: 133.27 Nearly a $4 gain last session, and it's possible (though unlikely) it will reach the aforementioned 135.00 mark. One pattern that has now been proven accurate better than 95% of the time is the Curly-Q of Death, and here it is. 135.00 would complete it perfectly, but it's already set to drop, IMO. It probably won't be as dramatic as the chart shows. This is, afterall, the one-year chart. But it should start falling off. [img]http://images1.filecloud.com/691549/aapl.JPG[/img]"

StockMan69 said: "[QUOTE=Raharu Haruha;65983]The big three went on to continue to keep making money for stock holders decades after the car craze of the 50's was over.[/QUOTE] Sure they did. But not as much money as before. The stock wont rise unless sales and net income increases."

AlfredSokol said: "What exactly happens as a result of the "Curly-Q of Death"? Does the company immediately go bankrupt at that point or what?"

soopadrive said: "Is there another term for Curly-Q of Death? I can't seem to find this concept anywhere other than these forums. I have to say I'm not sold on this observation. Last week I was in an Apple Store and they were swamped with customers. This was during the middle of a business day. I see no reason for this stock to drop as you say, as Apple's EPS show no signs of weakening. Last report showed a net quarterly profit of $1.58 billion; $1.76 per diluted share, versus a profit of $1 billion, or $1.14 per diluted share, reported a year ago from this report. This was Apple's most profitable quarter in its history. My sister just bought a new iMac. My grandma just bought a new iMac. My town's newspaper just bought a high-end tower from Apple. This brand is not going to go away, and their computer sales are gaining just as much momentum as its iPhone and iPod."

Kloewer said: "Based on the fundamentals, Apple looks expensive right now, but could be a good value if it gets down to about $100. If you expect AAPL's P/E to fall in-line with that of the S&P 500 (which is unlikely due to its above-average growth), it wouldn't be a buy until it got down to the $60-$70 range."

geomatster said: "With the iPhone competing with the blackberry and trying to create a niche for itself in the 'corporate phone' category and am looking forward for more upgrades. I love the brand APPLE and am sure many do! some see it as the future...so I definitely see it touching the 200 mark in the 'long'"

Cryogenix said: "[QUOTE=AlfredSokol;66132]What exactly happens as a result of the "Curly-Q of Death"? Does the company immediately go bankrupt at that point or what?[/QUOTE] It's merely a bearish pattern I discovered that typically marks the point of an impending big decline. Look over a lot of my threads and you'll find it mentioned and/or displayed in charts just before a big drop occurs. It's configured to look like a strong upbow to a bigger climb, but it's nearly always just a trap. Sometimes, it creates a small line of consolidation before it drops, and other times it drops off sharply once the curl is completed."

Cryogenix said: "Currently: 140.10 (high) It's on a major tear this session. If it closes this high it'll just create a deeper Curly-Q, which seems to be happening more frequently lately. The last gasp for before death, IMO. Happens all the time. Big gain, great volume, followed by a greater loss."

Raharu Haruha said: "[QUOTE=Cryogenix;66234]Currently: 140.10 (high) It's on a major tear this session. If it closes this high it'll just create a deeper Curly-Q, which seems to be happening more frequently lately. The last gasp for before death, IMO. Happens all the time. Big gain, great volume, followed by a greater loss.[/QUOTE] I believe that. I'm considering whether or not to hold RIMM. See, the thing is, with RIMM the EPS has been growing and not been keeping up with the explosive growth. They could miss their earnings (it's April 2nd), but if they at least met them, they will probably climb higher. Apple is not going to compete well with the Rimm in the corporate phone market because older business types will not be seen with the same phones as their children. The biggest problem with apple is that their iphone is too expensive for my generation. In 5 - 10 years, everyone will have one, and they will certainly dominate the smart phone business with their business phone/mp3 player."

AlfredSokol said: "I feel like Apple is a very small threat to RIMM. Even the Apple API is stupid and won't attract a lot of Enterprise development."

soopadrive said: "[QUOTE=AlfredSokol;66309]I feel like Apple is a very small threat to RIMM. Even the Apple API is stupid and won't attract a lot of Enterprise development.[/QUOTE] EMI, Universal, Warner, and Sony BMG thought the same exact thing to the music industry when they signed on with iTunes in April 2003."

Cryogenix said: "Previous: 140.98 Currently: 142.60 In my original prediction, I was looking at the one-year chart, and was seeing that peak near $33 as a possible Double Top target. And since the current climb was coming off a lower bottom, I figured $135 would be the highest climb, though unlikely. [img]http://images1.filecloud.com/691549/aapl.JPG[/img] However, in looking at the six-month last night, I found the Curly-Q was too shallow to create a drop, so now I can see it possibly going to 160.00. [img]http://images1.filecloud.com/693274/1aapl.jpg[/img]"

soopadrive said: "I agree, Cryo. Things are looking "up" for Apple, especially computer sales. I'm unable to post a link to a news story I read since I don't have more than 15 posts (odd), but there's an article at the Baltimore Sun .com called 'Apple a Day' by David Zeiler (written today) that I think every AAPL investor ought to read. I wrote a prediction at updown, claiming AAPL would hit the 175.00 mark in August. I think it still has a chance, but we'll see."

Cryogenix said: "Last: 145.06 (high 145.74, low 140.64 - VOL 41,758,532) Let me say that I think this is nothing but a big bait before a big drop. I also feel that the Curly-Q could end anywhere from today's close to 1.60, but the likelihood is 160.00 for the chart. 150.00 would be a mental barrier, so it could pullback from that. If it can push through, I think 160.00 will be easy."

Cryogenix said: "Last: 140.25 (high 145.31, low 139.99 - VOL 35,565,143) A CFO exercised options for 250,000 shares, announced near the close today. [url]http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.aspx?Feed=AP&Date=20080327&ID=8395949&Symbol=AAPL[/url] Things are happening very similar to BUD. The warning signs are presenting themselves."